[arin-ppml] Policy Proposal -- Normalize Free pool and Transfer justification periods

[Kevin Blumberg]

Owen,

I understand the reluctance of moving the transfer market to 24 months due to abuse. One of the reasons most often given was that it would allow a startup with no track to go and acquire space based on useless data sets.

Would you be more inclined to support a 2 tier approach.

* 12 Month transfer is the standard 
* 24 Month transfer for organizations in region that can show usage over the previous 24 months.


Thanks,

Kevin Blumberg

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From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 7:54 PM
To: matthew at matthew.at
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal -- Normalize Free pool and Transfer justification periods


On Jan 13, 2012, at 3:22 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:

> I'd support this if it was >12 months. At 12 months it'd just roll back the proposal to at least move the non-free-pool to 24 months.
> 

For transfers, yes. However, it also rolls the free pool forward to 12 months.

> But really, they're two different animals. The free pool (in theory) you can come back to when the time is up. The paid transfer on the other hand, you have no idea if there will be sellers, what the prices will be, etc. So you really need to be sure you're buying enough when spending that much money.
> 

At this point, you don't know whether there will be a free pool or not, either.

> So the only argument in favor of extending the free pool timing is that you believe you *can't* come back to the free pool, or that somehow people feel better buying 12 months now instead of getting free pool every 3 months for the next 12 months.
> 
Which has been shown to be the case.

> What I *think* is really going on is that the buyers on the current transfer market are buying way more than 3 or even 12 months worth of space, but the price paid is worth fighting to have the transfer recognized.
> 

I'm not sure I understand this statement.

Owen

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