[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based Justification

Astrodog astrodog at gmail.com
Mon Feb 27 15:19:02 EST 2012

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Jo Rhett <jrhett at netconsonance.com> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Matthew Petach wrote:
> There's nothing unfair in the right; what is unfair is that the
> rights are not being applied equally to everyone within the
> ARIN purview.  I'm advocating that we either apply the rules
> equally to *everyone*, or apply them to no-one.  The current
> "have" and "have-not" scenario is a ludicrous parody of
> medieval fiefdoms.
> Can you be specific about how you see the rules not being fairly applied? Do
> you see ARIN giving new blocks to some segment of its clients by a different
> criteria than it provides new blocks to others?  Please be specific.
> I am only asking because all of your commentary to date has to do with
> providers who already have large blocks, and that's not the business that
> ARIN's membership has asked it to perform.  I have seen and supported
> numerous proposals for ARIN to review and audit existing allocations for
> compliance, and these proposals have always failed.  Thus ARIN has been
> explicitly told by its members that it is not a policing body.  Therefore it
> can only apply these policies when handing out *new* allocations. (be they
> transferred blocks or not)
> If I am reading your complain correctly, it would appear that your main
> complaint has nothing to do with this transfer policy and everything to do
> with the old and much-argued complaint about historical allocations.  If so,
> I would argue that none of your concerns are made any better or worse by the
> proposed transfer policy, and that your concerns should be addressed by a
> new policy that very explicitly addresses review of historical allocations.
>  For what it is worth, I would totally support this policy however I suspect
> ARIN doesn't have the legal authority on which to enforce this.  And, as
> past discussion has proven, this would be extremely unpopular.

If I'm understanding the context correctly, this is limited to
transfers under 8.3. I don't think the proposal addresses allocations
from ARIN.

--- Harrison

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