[arin-ppml] Prop-151: Clarifying requirements for IPv4 transfers (was "Limiting needs...")

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Thu Feb 23 12:08:33 EST 2012

I just had a though; While I doubt this would happen that much, I'm not 
sure it is in the communities interest to prevent such a scenario either.

So, would this language prevent an organizations from swapping address 
space to prevent the fragmentation and disaggregation of a larger block.

In other words, an organization has a /16 and only needs a /20 could the 
receive the transfer of a /20 and then transfer the whole /16.  In this 
case the organizations desire to maximize it financial return by 
transferring a larger block also facilitates the communities desire to 
reduce fragmentation and increase aggregation.

And this scenario would require transfers in multiple directions that I 
think the language being discussed is intended to prevent.

On 2/21/12 18:01 CST, Chris Grundemann wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 16:28, Alexander, Daniel
> <Daniel_Alexander at cable.comcast.com>  wrote:
>> The intent of the condition is to limit ARIN's free pool from being a
>> source of revenue. One should not be able to double dip by profiting on
>> the transfer of resources while they are obtaining resources from ARIN,
>> essentially for free. It is not intended to prevent the flipping of any
>> particular resource.
> Thanks for the clarification. I still choose to place profiting from
> the improper acquisition of ARIN managed resources in a single bucket
> however. I believe that ARIN should act as steward for all number
> resources within the region, not just those that have not been
> previously handed out.
>> If we want to prevent flipping it should be a separate condition, but my
>> thought was to leave that to the RSA and recipient review.
> If the RSA and recipient review can control "flipping" why can they
> not prevent "profiting"?
> Cheers,
> ~Chris
>> -Dan

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