[arin-ppml] what about 36 months?

Scott Leibrand scottleibrand at gmail.com
Sat Feb 18 19:39:53 EST 2012

We did hear part of the community advocating for 36 months when we
were discussing the change to 24.  I think most of us (including
myself personally) wanted to change things incrementally and see what
effect it had.  I would expect that the policy cycle leading up to the
fall public policy meeting would be our first good opportunity to
revisit whether 24 months is working, or whether we need to adjust it.
 A policy proposal submitted any time in the next 5 months or so would
likely be up for discussion in Dallas in October.

In the mean time, if anyone has any data or experiences they can share
that might shed light on the appropriate timeframe, or if anyone has
any other limitations other than timeframe they think should be
adjusted, I'd love to hear them.

It's also worth noting that we'll likely have ARIN-prop-162 up for
discussion this policy cycle, which will examine the related issue of
whether anything needs to change with the current 3 month window for
free pool allocations now that we've changed the transfer need window
to 24 months.


On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Michael Sinatra
<michael+ppml at burnttofu.net> wrote:
> If the goal of the eliminate-needs-policy is to allow the market do
> efficiently allocate number resources while preventing predatory behavior,
> what kind of effect do we think moving to a 36 month window for 8.3
> transfers would have?
> It might make it easy to justify need.  It seems like someone with
> legitimate use for IPv4 resources could easily justify whatever then can
> afford, if the window size is 36 months.  On the other hand, it should be
> pretty easy to sniff out a speculator--someone who has zero customers, zero
> internet products and 5 employees and wants to buy a /14, claiming their
> business will radically change in the next 3 years.
> I don't know how quickly we want to move to 36 months, given that we just
> went to 24.  And I am not advocating any particular policy at this point,
> just asking a question of the community.
> thanks,
> michael
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