[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based Justification

jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com
Fri Feb 17 12:32:46 EST 2012

Thank you Paul.  I now understand the specific intent of your question
based on this posting.  You are correct, similar motivation exists for
the Seller based on current policy.  What is missing in the market is
strong demand created by an attractive alternative to free 90-day
allocations based on justified need.  The motivation does not exist to
the extent possible for the buyers under current policy (justification
based on 24 month utilization).  If there is buyer demand, the sellers
will more readily allocate time and resources to transfer their unused
blocks--thereby increasing supply.  So in this instance, our Policy
Proposal seeks to encourage demand which will increase supply of
currently unused IPv4 address blocks. The result should be more
specified transfers and effective allocation of previously unused number

Jeff Mehlenbacher

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based
From: Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org>
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012 12:10 pm
To: jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net

On 2012-02-17 3:46 PM, jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com wrote:
> Yes, we are part of the Specified Transfer Listing Service and have a
> very good grasp on current policy governing 8.3s including the recent
> change to demonstrating need based on 24 months rather than 12 months. 
> Our Policy Proposal seeks to provide the necessary incentive for
> Companies with unused IPs to actively put them to use through a transfer
> and further seeks to motivate Companies with need to use Specified
> Transfer though ARIN. The current practice of justifying need for
> Specified Transfers is a disincentive for many potential recipient
> organizations to participate in this market. Lack of demand directly
> affects the freeing of dormant supply.

jeff, this sounds misdirective and evasive. you have not answered my
question. every incentive for sellers is present in the current transfer
system. your proposal to eliminate needs-basis for recipients would not
have the effect you're describing.


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