[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based Justification

jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com
Fri Feb 17 10:46:45 EST 2012

Yes, we are part of the Specified Transfer Listing Service and have a
very good grasp on current policy governing 8.3s including the recent
change to demonstrating need based on 24 months rather than 12 months. 
Our Policy Proposal seeks to provide the necessary incentive for
Companies with unused IPs to actively put them to use through a transfer
and further seeks to motivate Companies with need to use Specified
Transfer though ARIN.  The current practice of justifying need for
Specified Transfers is a disincentive for many potential recipient
organizations to participate in this market.  Lack of demand directly
affects the freeing of dormant supply.


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based
From: Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org>
Date: Fri, February 17, 2012 10:27 am
To: jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com
Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net

 On 2012-02-17 3:19 PM, jeffmehlenbacher at ipv4marketgroup.com wrote: 
Paul, I cannot speak to how other brokers structure their business, but
we do not actually hold address space if I interpret you literally.  Our
Sellers hold the address space.  We are contracted by companies with
unused IPv4 blocks to source a company with need.  Once a potential
needer is identified, we facilitate agreement on price, timing and other
conditions of a transfer then provide the necessary legal documents and
guidance to execute the transactions contingent upon ARIN approval.  The
value of any broker--be it insurance, mortgage, real estate or IPv4
transfers--is subjective but clearly if a Seller and a Buyer prefer to
use a broker, they should do so.  The Policy Proposal as written assumes
there may or may not be broker involvement in Specified Transfers. 
 thank you jeff. it seems that you have misunderstood the current
policies, which allow everything you describe, so long as the needer can
demonstrate that need to ARIN. there is a place in the "transfer listing
service" for brokers, too. i'm at a loss to understand what it about the
current transfer policies that won't fit the model you're describing

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