[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-163 Dedicated resources for initial ISP allocations

Benson Schliesser bensons at queuefull.net
Thu Feb 9 12:54:59 EST 2012

Thanks, John. I agree with your comments and I look forward to seeing the
legal review.

It might also be interesting to consider the impact to non-ISP end
networks. Perhaps the 'anti-competitive' issues are different, even though
access to the IPv4 market might be equally available - it's not clear to
me. Either way, we may want to consider what our obligations are to both



I, Benson Schliesser, am an employee of Cisco Systems; however, opinions
expressed in this email are my own views and not those of Cisco Systems or
anybody else.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 07:14, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:

> On Feb 9, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:
> >
> > With regards to this proposal, it's not like there's an
> > anti-competitive practice taking place. The reason why new entrants
> > won't be able to get address space is because of a design fault that
> > is the root cause of run-out. We would've, and we will, run out no
> > matter what is put aside or reserved for anyone.
> It has been noted that even in the presence of a smoothly
> functioning market, new entrants will face a fairly high
> barrier to entry as IPv6 alone will likely not suffice and
> that a small amount of routable IPv4 space may be required
> to maintain compatibility with the existing Internet.
> If the community does not specifically reserve address space
> for such entrants, it is not inherently "anti-competitive" but
> may raise some concerns that the established businesses in this
> space failed to fairly consider the requirements of the entire
> Internet community as compared to their own interests.
> We will obviously get some legal review here regarding the
> level of obligation that the community has to consider these
> requirements, and will provide it to the list as soon as it
> is available.
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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