[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-165 Eliminate Needs-Based Justification on8.3 Specified Transfers

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Mon Feb 20 14:13:41 EST 2012


On Feb 20, 2012, at 1:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:

> Hm.  The Adrex presentation at NANOG 54 seemed to indicate the
> courts have ruled otherwise, that IPv4 addresses are indeed real
> property that have value and can be purchased and sold to settle
> debts in bankruptcy proceedings.

To date, courts have held that parties rights and interests in address
blocks may be an asset of an estate, not that the numbers themselves are 
property. (This is despite several parties efforts to assert otherwise...)  
The fact that a holder has rights to an address block does not mean that
the community does not also have certain rights to the same address block.

In the referenced transaction, the recipient submitted a transfer request 
to ARIN, ARIN found it acceptable, and indicated to the court that the sale 
was acceptable.  If you want to see the actual documents that were revised 
to reflect reality, refer to this posting and the ARIN references in the
approved court documents:

  http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2011-December/023849.html

Thanks!
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN




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