[arin-ppml] Nanog IPV4 Panel Discussion and 8.3 transfers

[John Curran]

On Feb 6, 2012, at 4:14 PM, Andrew Dul wrote:

> Vendor A sells a /16 to Vendor B.  Vendor B can justify a /20 under
> current policy.  ARIN's response (channeling John Curran's response to
> this question) to this transfer would be to update the WHOIS to reflect
> that Vendor B now has a /20. 

To be very clear, the most likely course of events is as follows:
Vendor B puts in a transfer request to ARIN for a /16 and it is 
denied because they only need a /20 under current policies.  They
reapply to transfer specific /20 from vendor A (which concurs) and
that is approved and the registry is updated to reflect that the
specific /20 is now held by Vendor B.

> This leaves a very uncomfortable situation of what happens to the rest
> of the /16. 
> 

> Does the remainder of the /16 become "unallocated" from a WHOIS
> perspective or does Vendor A still have some claim on it (e.g. the
> original /16 record remains)? 

The remainder of the /16 is remains registered to vendor A.

> Later can Vendor B come back to ARIN and say now I can justify a /18,
> please update my WHOIS record?

Vendor B can certainly submit a second request at a later time; 
we would ask for concurrence from Vendor A before we processed
the request.

I hope this helps,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN