[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-163 Dedicated resources for initial ISP allocations

Martin Hannigan hannigan at gmail.com
Wed Feb 1 17:12:08 EST 2012


I'm interested in this, but shy of support for now. Also, If this were
to go into the AC masher, it would be torn apart for multiple cycles
and probably be too late for any good by the time that it was able to
be useful. Less text if possible would be very helpful. I think it's
possible.

This is primarily a discussion about redistribution of cost, not
necessarily new entrants. Using the authors and ARIN's address
breakdown, each entrant averages needing a /21. At roughly $20 an
address currently and perhaps for as long as such a /10 might last,
you're looking at ramping into a $45K expense. Once could argue that
if a business could justify a /21 that they should be able to justify
the financing of the same. Providing equal access to new entrants and
others alike would seem to present a level playing field. It's not
like exhaustion was a forethought of design that was intended to
create a scenario where an end game may preclude some. I'm not 100%
sure that I see the value in creating inequality for a special class.

More discussion needed.

Best,

-M<




On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Randy Whitney <randy.whitney at verizon.com> wrote:
> I'm generally in support of this policy. Needs some work, IMO, but right
> now I do not have time to explore in more depth.
> --
> Randy.
>
>
> On 2/1/2012 1:37 PM, ARIN wrote:
>>
>> ARIN-prop-163 Dedicated resources for initial ISP allocations
>>
>> ARIN received the following policy proposal and is posting it to the
>> Public Policy Mailing List (PPML) in accordance with the Policy
>> Development Process.
>>
>> The ARIN Advisory Council (AC) will review the proposal at their next
>> regularly scheduled meeting (if the period before the next regularly
>> scheduled meeting is less than 10 days, then the period may be extended
>> to the subsequent regularly scheduled meeting). The AC will decide how
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>> ## * ##
>>
>>
>> ARIN-prop-163 Dedicated resources for initial ISP allocations
>>
>> Proposal Originator: Joe Maimon
>>
>> Proposal Version: 1.0
>>
>> Date: 1 February 2012
>>
>> Proposal type: New
>>
>> Policy term: Temporary
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> Add
>>
>> 4.2.2.4. Resources dedicated for initial ISP allocations.
>>
>> Prior to any allocation or assignment that will cause ARIN's total
>> available, unreserved and non-dedicated resources to fall under a total
>> of a /8, ARIN will first ensure that dedicated resources equivalent to a
>> /10 are available from the remainder of the available resources. These
>> resources are to be used solely for initial ISP allocations that cannot
>> be fulfilled from any other available ARIN resources.
>>
>> 4.2.2.4.1 Restrictions
>>
>> ARIN may require qualifying organizations to demonstrate that they were
>> not created solely to receive resources from these dedicated resources.
>>
>> 4.2.2.4.2 Replenishment
>>
>> ARIN will replenish the available dedicated resources, up to the total
>> of a /10 of available resources, whenever there are sufficient available
>> resources, with no more than 25% of the available resources going for
>> this purpose.
>>
>> 4.2.2.4.3 Reporting
>>
>> ARIN will keep numbers and statistics available as to the total size of
>> the dedicated resources, allocated and unallocated and to how many
>> members allocations were made, available annually.
>>
>> 4.2.2.4.4 Retirement
>>
>> ARIN will retire this section whenever two full calendar years go by
>> that no allocations are made from these resources, following their
>> creation.
>>
>> Rationale:
>>
>> I believe it is important to ensure access to new entities to the IPv4
>> resources ARIN maintains stewardship over. Without a policy like this
>> one, they are unlikely to have any alternative other then to use PA
>> space or utilize transfers that may be prohibitively burdensome.
>>
>> I also believe it is important to ARIN to be an essential and relevant
>> entity to the process of getting these new ISP's to their footing with
>> IPv4 resources.
>>
>> ARIN informal numbers:
>>
>> Total first time IPv4 allocations to ISPs approved in 2011:  318
>> Total IPv4 space approved for:     2,812 /24s
>>
>> Total additional IPv4 allocations to ISPs in 2011:  497 ISP accounts
>> received at least one additional IPv4 allocation.
>> Total IPv4 space approved for:   70,569 /24s
>>
>> This suggests that maintaining resources for these new ISPs can ensure a
>> steady influx of new members who would otherwise have much more limited
>> options, and that a /10 can provide an estimated 4 years of access to
>> these resources.
>>
>> This same /10 would last for additional allocations less than a year.
>>
>> Timetable for implementation: Before ARIN has less than a /8 in
>> its free pool.
>>
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