[arin-ppml] New Policy Proposal

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu Aug 16 14:06:31 EDT 2012

As I come to understand the problem better, I don't think that it
is really specific to Canada or that there is actually a technically
feasible way to do otherwise given the way that cable systems

As such, I think that the policy as written is actually generic and
would suffice for any other jurisdiction that were to develop
an "unbundled elements" equivalent for their cable providers.

Indeed, having this policy on the books at ARIN may well serve
as a way to encourage other jurisdictions to create similar
third party access requirements which, IMHO, would be a very
good thing.


On Aug 16, 2012, at 07:36 , Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Paul Andersen <paul at egate.net> wrote:
> ...
>> If by "rigged" you mean "designed" then that is a rough view of one problem faced by TPIA providers.
> So, from a policy perspective, Canadian ISPs are between a rock
> (ARIN utilization requirements) and hard place (CRTC TPIA
> requirements) for growth if they enter the cable market.
> I suppose the paranoid could say this was all part of a scheme
> by the incumbents to force the 3rd party ISPs to stay out of the
> cable market if they want to grow elsewhere.
> I am not entirely comfortable with seeing other jurisdictions
> define IP address allocation policies, nor do I like the idea
> for special carve-outs for such rules (the precedent it provides
> can lead to other poor results), but neither do I expect to see
> the CRTC rules change.  Based on my current understanding,
> I find myself reluctantly supporting moving this policy forward
> for acceptance for further discussion because it enables
> further competition in the Canadian marketplace.
> Gary
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