[arin-ppml] private whois record

Tom Vest tvest at eyeconomics.com
Wed Aug 8 20:17:33 EDT 2012

On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:48 PM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:35 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>>> How does "a valid working phone or email address" suddenly turn into "my
>>> home address"? You're not going to drive up here to fix the problem
>>> yourself, are you?
>> Not planning on it. But I might have a cease and desist notice
>> delivered by certified mail.
>>> These days, an email address should be more than sufficient.
>> See above.
> Doesn't hold water. You can still receive a letter via a forwarding
> service. Domain name holders pay for privacy services and they seem to
> somehow work.

Using the same logic, we could also argue that the public automotive transportation infrastructure systems works just fine even though bus and auto passengers are not subject to any intrusive licensing or registration requirements, and that fact demonstrates that all vehicle registration and driver's licensing laws are unnecessary; they could all be abolished without consequence.

The obvious counterargument in both cases is that the "passengers" enjoy those freedoms -- i.e., to get around relatively easily, and in relative safety, and to do so without being burdened by inconvenient licensing/registration requirements --  precisely and *solely* because of the imposition and enforcement of such rules on the underlying factors upon which every "passenger" necessarily depends. 

If the registration requirements that apply at the lower levels of either of those systems ever disappeared or ceased to be enforced (or to be enforceable), that "free option" would immediately disappear, and all of its former beneficiaries would be forced to accept some new mix of tradeoffs between (i.e., reductions in) their former freedoms -- either less mobility/access, or less reliability/greater risk.

Alternately, they might wish to restore the old set of tradeoffs -- i.e., the set that many former "passengers" had never even noticed, much less consciously acknowledged -- by collectively establishing some basic rules of the (road/shared infrastructure), and delegating responsibility for promoting and monitoring compliance with those rules to some some neutral but accountable entity. However, such "collective action" solutions are invariably contentious, time-consuming, and difficult, even under the best of circumstances -- and under less favorable conditions the option may not exist at all.

So choose carefully.


> And there are ways to address "exigent" circumstances
> already baked in.
> There is no need for the physical address to be public at all with
> respect to "contact" arguments. It's a red herring.
> Best,
> -M<
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