[arin-ppml] IP Address Policy
cblecker at gmail.com
Wed Aug 8 19:35:01 EDT 2012
The usual procedure most new providers go through would be to go to
one of your upstream providers (in your case AT&T or TW Telecom) and
request a "portable /24 via BGP, with an LOA". Let's say you got this
block from AT&T. You'd then take the LOA (Letter of
Approval/Authorization) to your other provider, in this case TW
Telecom, and ask them to add it to their BGP filters. Once you start
advertising this block to both upstreams, you have the same redundancy
as a PI block. The only restriction would be if you discontinued your
customer relationship with AT&T, they would likely require you to
return the block to them.
This new assignment, along with your legacy assignment, would bring
you up to /23 of non-contiguous space (enough to meet ARIN's
requirement). Once you achieve 80% utilization of this space (410 out
of 512 IPs) then you will meet ARIN's requirement for getting PI space
directly from them.
Yes, there are a number of hoops that the policy makes you jump though
to get an initial assignment, but there are very good reasons for
these (including routing table size issues, and the want to protect
from a shell company starting up, calling themselves an ISP, and
immediately eligible for a /22 from ARIN).
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Steven Ryerse
<SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> wrote:
> ARIN is a Monopoly. As a Monopoly ARIN does not have the right to refuse
> assignment solely because this community has participated in commenting on a
> policy. The phone company who also is a monopoly cannot deny me a phone
> line just because the other folks who already have a phone don’t want me to
> have one or even a second one.
> Also, I have requested that the policy I proposed be entered and
> considered by this community and I expect that you or whoever will make that
> happen. I have no experience with that so I will need help.
> I would hope that ARIN would Champion someone like me who is trying to go
> thru proper ARIN channels for resources, instead of forcing someone like me
> to go around it. By denying reasonable requests like mine, ARIN is forcing
> organizations like mine to participate in back-channel IP markets outside of
> ARIN which per your many comments on the subject – you don’t want to happen.
> It is my opinion that ARIN really doesn’t have authority over Legacy
> resources that are not under contract with ARIN but that isn’t what is
> happening here. I am going thru proper ARIN channels to obtain needed
> resources and ARIN is refusing to allocate those resources to me.
> I have a need for resources and I HAVE TO FILL THEM TO STAY IN BUSINESS.
> Is ARIN going to honor its Mission Statement and allocate the resources we
> need or not?
> Also there are a lot of folks out there who are a member of this
> community. Many have privately told me that they agree with me but I don’t
> see them commenting publicly. I assume they have tried in the past without
> success and have given up trying. I would ask them to break their silence
> and contribute their comments to this subject so that all of the community
> out there can be heard and not just the vocal minority.
> Steven L Ryerse
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