[arin-ppml] New Policy Proposal
joelja at bogus.com
Thu Aug 16 14:15:19 EDT 2012
On 8/16/12 11:06 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> As I come to understand the problem better, I don't think that it
> is really specific to Canada or that there is actually a technically
> feasible way to do otherwise given the way that cable systems
If you can't obtain the addresses necessary to fulfill the requirements
it doesn't seem that feasible... Policy doesn't appear to be the only
impediment (e.g. actual scarcity is germain).
> As such, I think that the policy as written is actually generic and
> would suffice for any other jurisdiction that were to develop
> an "unbundled elements" equivalent for their cable providers.
> Indeed, having this policy on the books at ARIN may well serve
> as a way to encourage other jurisdictions to create similar
> third party access requirements which, IMHO, would be a very
> good thing.
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 07:36 , Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Paul Andersen <paul at egate.net> wrote:
>>> If by "rigged" you mean "designed" then that is a rough view of one problem faced by TPIA providers.
>> So, from a policy perspective, Canadian ISPs are between a rock
>> (ARIN utilization requirements) and hard place (CRTC TPIA
>> requirements) for growth if they enter the cable market.
>> I suppose the paranoid could say this was all part of a scheme
>> by the incumbents to force the 3rd party ISPs to stay out of the
>> cable market if they want to grow elsewhere.
>> I am not entirely comfortable with seeing other jurisdictions
>> define IP address allocation policies, nor do I like the idea
>> for special carve-outs for such rules (the precedent it provides
>> can lead to other poor results), but neither do I expect to see
>> the CRTC rules change. Based on my current understanding,
>> I find myself reluctantly supporting moving this policy forward
>> for acceptance for further discussion because it enables
>> further competition in the Canadian marketplace.
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