[arin-ppml] New Policy Proposal

[joel jaeggli]

On 8/16/12 11:06 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> As I come to understand the problem better, I don't think that it
> is really specific to Canada or that there is actually a technically
> feasible way to do otherwise given the way that cable systems
> function.
If you can't obtain the addresses necessary to fulfill the requirements 
it doesn't seem that feasible... Policy doesn't appear to be the only 
impediment (e.g. actual scarcity is germain).
> As such, I think that the policy as written is actually generic and
> would suffice for any other jurisdiction that were to develop
> an "unbundled elements" equivalent for their cable providers.
>
> Indeed, having this policy on the books at ARIN may well serve
> as a way to encourage other jurisdictions to create similar
> third party access requirements which, IMHO, would be a very
> good thing.
>
> Owen
>
> On Aug 16, 2012, at 07:36 , Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Paul Andersen <paul at egate.net> wrote:
>> ...
>>> If by "rigged" you mean "designed" then that is a rough view of one problem faced by TPIA providers.
>> So, from a policy perspective, Canadian ISPs are between a rock
>> (ARIN utilization requirements) and hard place (CRTC TPIA
>> requirements) for growth if they enter the cable market.
>>
>> I suppose the paranoid could say this was all part of a scheme
>> by the incumbents to force the 3rd party ISPs to stay out of the
>> cable market if they want to grow elsewhere.
>>
>> I am not entirely comfortable with seeing other jurisdictions
>> define IP address allocation policies, nor do I like the idea
>> for special carve-outs for such rules (the precedent it provides
>> can lead to other poor results), but neither do I expect to see
>> the CRTC rules change.  Based on my current understanding,
>> I find myself reluctantly supporting moving this policy forward
>> for acceptance for further discussion because it enables
>> further competition in the Canadian marketplace.
>>
>> Gary
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