[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-180 ISP Private Reassignment

Aaron Dudek adudek16 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 15:56:45 EDT 2012


Well, you bill the customer, so if the customer moves without telling you,
you can figure out how that works.
POCs change all the time. I'm sure that you know how to update and correct
that when it is found out. Either someone will contact your company and say
something or they will contact you when they are no longer able to reach
certain sites.

Aaron

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Chu, Yi [NTK] <Yi.Chu at sprint.com> wrote:

> So ISP creates swip and POC records on behalf of its customers.  Does that
> put ISP in a legal binding that in case customer moves, or customer's POC
> changes job without telling the ISP, that ISP has any legal implication for
> not knowing?
>
> yi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
> Behalf Of Jimmy Hess
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 10:20 PM
> To: Owen DeLong
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-180 ISP Private Reassignment
>
> On 8/9/12, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> > some legitimate contact address for the customer in question. Ideally
> > the one where they would prefer to receive service of legal process.
>
> I think many organizations would prefer to not receive service of
> legal process at any address.
>
> The org address listed in WHOIS should be a mailing address that is an
> authoritative contact for both the organization and the network.
> Example uses of a mailing address could include:
>
> (*) Verification of of identity on the part of upstreams and
> prospective peers,  by proof of ability to receive mail, or comparison
> to other records.
>
> (*) Contact by letter sent via postal mail or private courier as a
> last resort, for reporting technical or abuse issues, that for some
> reason the e-mail based or telephone contact was not responsive for,
> for example, the telephone may be malfunctioning, or disconnected,
> and someone forgot to update WHOIS.
>
> (*) Reporting of network abuse issues,  by going there in person to
> report face-to-face or via courier/postal mail, where the technical
> contact was believed to be complicit in the abuse for some reason.
>
> (*)  Reporting of possible hacker compromises impacting the mail
> server that  the technical contact's mail is hosting on,  or  when
> e-mail is otherwise returned as undeliverable  or not acknowledged.
>
>
> > Owen
> --
> -JH
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