[arin-ppml] IP Address Policy

Christoph Blecker cblecker at gmail.com
Thu Aug 9 18:17:32 EDT 2012


On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Steven Ryerse
<SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> wrote:
>
> Thank you very much for clearing up the record.  I do stand by my original
> point that it is not reasonable to deny resources solely because of
> organization size.  The BGP policy discriminates against smaller
> organizations and that is why I am making such a fuss over it.  As I
> mentioned I will be formally submitting my proposed change to ARIN policies
> that I submitted in my first post on this subject.  This is the very simple
> policy that I am going to propose:
>
>
>
> “Regardless of any other ARIN Policy,  ARIN will allocate an IP block
> matching ARIN’s current Minimum IP Block Size, to any organization or entity
> that can reasonably demonstrate a need for an IP block.”

How do you define "reasonably demonstrate"? How would you protect
against abuse/fraud (such as setting up a shell company, submitting a
request for IPs, and getting them without further justification)? With
IPs being a limited resource, would you advocate to reclaim the IPs if
they aren't in use (being that getting them from ARIN is so easy)?

Cheers,
Christoph

> I hope you and others will decide to support it.
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> From: David Miller [mailto:dmiller at tiggee.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 5:53 PM
> To: McTim
> Cc: Steven Ryerse; arin-ppml at arin.net
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> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IP Address Policy
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> On 8/9/2012 4:44 PM, McTim wrote:
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>
>
> Hello Steven,
>
>
>
> If you go through the thread, you will find that you are indeed the first
> to use the word cabal in this thread.
>
>
> In truth, I believe that I was the first to use the word cabal.
>
> Steven Ryerse wrote:
> "...it is not reasonable for a monopoly to deny a resource request just
> because
> others in the community don’t want me to have the resources."
>
> David Miller wrote:
> "There is no cabal controlling address allocations. There is no group of
> people in the community that voted against or "don't want" you to have
> resources."
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Steven Ryerse
> <SRyerse at eclipse-networks.com> wrote:
>
> It’s funny, there is no vinegar in my first post on this subject but it
> sure generated some aimed at me!
>
>
>
> your first few posts in this thread were all vinegar.  Read them again,
> you want a pony and
>
> threaten to pitch a tantrum until ya get one (at least that's the way it
> reads to me).
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route
> indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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