[arin-ppml] private whois record

[Matthew Kaufman]

On 8/7/2012 2:30 PM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Matthew Kaufman
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 4:13 PM
>> To: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] private whois record
>>
>> On 8/7/2012 10:01 AM, Kevin Kargel wrote:
>>> Having said that, if you are operating on the public network and wish to
>>> keep your contact information private then something just doesn't jive.
>> I
>>> do strongly support transparency.  If you don't want to disclose any
>>> information the solution is simple, don't transact on public networks.
>>>
>> I don't see how you can reach that conclusion so easily. I drive my
>> vehicles on the public roadway network, and while they all display
>> number plates, you'll find that translating that information to my home
>> address is non-trivial, at least in this state.
>>
>> Why should my home network packets be any different (and yes, I use more
>> than a /29 here)?
> [kjk] Apples and Oranges..  I have no direct need to find your home address
> because of interaction on the roads.  Legislation has been passed to
> restrict my access to your personal information via your license number.

You have no direct need to find my home address because I'm using the 
Internet, either.

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> Get similar legislation passed as respects IP addresses and the same will be
> true in the country the legislation is based in.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

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> Taxi and bus services that do provide a public exchange service are in fact
> required to display their contact information in human readable form.  This
> is a more valid comparison.

Actually there's quite a few that don't... limo companies typically 
don't provide anything except their registration number, which may or 
may not have a public address or phone number associated with it.

But if I'm not providing services to you, why should you care anyway?

And, for quite some time (perhaps even still) it was possible to obtain 
an IP address range and use it as a unique identifier on a private 
network... so should those cases also be required to have public contact 
information?

Matthew Kaufman