[arin-ppml] Revealing /32 customers?

Tim Gimmel tim.gimmel at metronetinc.com
Thu Apr 26 17:42:10 EDT 2012


That is not true!
  I just received an /21 allocation and in order to get the allocation I was required to send customer names for every address for a DHCP /25.  I have asked repeatedly why, on cable DHCP groups, this necessary since is not required by ARIN policy.  I advised the representative this needs to be make clear in ARIN policy so our company can put procedures in place to easily supply this data when asking for more resources.
I guess this is why I comment.

Regards,
Tim Gimmel


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-----Original Message-----
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Randy Carpenter
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 3:44 PM
To: William Herrin
Cc: ARIN PPML
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Revealing /32 customers?


I work with several ISPs, and to my knowledge, none of them have ever been asked to provide any more information than what is already in SWIP/WHOIS, which would mean only /29 and shorter. In fact, I don't think they have ever been asked anything at all. I just assumed that since the SWIP/WHOIS data was already there, it was being used.

In many cases I have seen "/24 allocated as /32 static assignments to customers" be sufficient justification.

-Randy

----- Original Message -----
> Hi folks,
> 
> Paraphrasing a private message I received during a recent NANOG
> discussion:
> 
> "We have roughly 66 /32 customer assignments and a /24 for management 
> addresses (switches, waps, wireless backhauls, servers, etc). Also a 
> number of large assignments to DHCP pools.
> 
> ARIN not only asked for the 66 customer names once, when the company 
> went back to ask for additional space after renumbering, they were 
> asked for it again. ARIN asked nothing concerning the DHCP pools, 
> which by themselves qualified the address space."
> 
> 
> My understanding was that our consensus policy is that an ISP is 
> expected to reveal customer information about assignments of /29 and 
> larger. So, this brings to mind two questions:
> 
> 1. Do current ARIN staff procedures have situations which place a 
> mandatory requirement for an ISP to reveal (under NDA or otherwise) 
> customers to whom less than a /29 of address spaces has been assigned?
> By "mandatory" I mean that ARIN staff will not accept an alternate 
> form of demonstration that the /32 assignments are in use. The 
> customer identities are required.
> 
> 2. If ARIN staff procedures are in fact as described in #1, from which 
> NRPM policies do those particular procedures derive?
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
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