[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-157 Section 8.3 Simplification

[Sweeting, John]

So, Michael, for clarity are you in support or opposed to this proposal?

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From: "Michael Sinatra" <michael+ppml at burnttofu.net>
Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 6:58 pm
Subject: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-157 Section 8.3 Simplification
To: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com>
Cc: "arin-ppml at arin.net" <arin-ppml at arin.net>

In addition, by allowing IPv6 space to transfer in this manner, the
careful and sparse allocation methods ARIN and the other RIRs have been
doing in order to maximize some semblance of aggregation will become
less effective.  A good chunk of the fragmentation in IPv4 space is due
to address blocks that have been acquired over the course of time
(sometimes through M&A) that are no longer aggregable.  Keeping ARIN in
control of IPv6 space can help ensure (or at least it won't undermine)
the goal of having a minimum number of aggregable IPv6 prefixes
announced per ASN.  We know that transfer policies will increase
fragmentation in IPv4 but we think they're a necessary evil.  They're
not a necessary evil in IPv6.

michael

On 09/21/11 14:56, Owen DeLong wrote:
> I disagree. While we did not feel it was appropriate to limit IPv4 transfers to
> legacy space, the existence of legacy space really is the only reason we needed
> an 8.3 transfer policy. Space covered by RSA should be returned to ARIN and
> the recipient should get their space directly from ARIN without the need for
> directed transfers.
>
> Owen
>
> On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>
>> Support. There is no reason for IPv4 to be special here. As IPv6 becomes more prevalent, we will undoubtedly see cases where someone wants to transfer a block of IPv4 space *and* the associated IPv6 space without selling a portion of their business along with it.
>>
>> Matthew Kaufman
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