[arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARINInter-RIRTransfers - Last Call

William Herrin bill at herrin.us
Tue Oct 25 21:01:36 EDT 2011

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:37 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:32 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 26, 2011, at 12:25 AM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:35 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>>>> I can't bend on the idea that we'll let other regions set their own,
>>>>> LESS-stringent-than-ARIN rules for consuming ARIN addresses while we
>>>>> continue to apply more restrictive rules to identical registrants here
>>>>> at home. That is beyond careless stewardship. If I may borrow your
>>>>> turn of phrase, it violates a fundamental expectation of any fair and
>>>>> equitable industry self-regulation.
>>>> Can you back up this claim with any form of evidence or fact?
>>> "Under the proposed policy text, it does not matter if the other RIRs
>>> requirements are more or less strict than ARIN's" -- John Curran,
>>> 10/20/2011 explaining ARIN's interpretation of the 2011-1 text.
>>  That is simply a fact regarding the 2011-1 proposed policy; it is not a
>>  statement about any particular RIRs policy being actually being more or
>>  less stringent today.
> As is my statement quoted above. Or is there some other interpretation
> of "we'll LET other regions SET their own, less-stringent" that I'm
> not aware of?

But what they hey, as long as you've broached the subject:

In your view, which of the other four RIRs presently implement a
transfer policy whose minimum path through the policy-derived process
appiles as restrictive or more restrictive rules on the recipient than
ARIN's? I won't ask you to "prove it" in each case, but as few of us
here are experts in other RIRs' policies I will ask you to explain
your reasoning.

My statement looked to the horizon, to the possibilities, but I think
it might be interesting to know the immediate game on the ground as

Bill Herrin

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