[arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARINInter-RIRTransfers - Last Call

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Oct 25 20:16:59 EDT 2011

On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:35 PM, William Herrin wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:24 PM, John Curran <jcurran at arin.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 25, 2011, at 3:35 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>>> I care about how our region, the ARIN region, manages OUR addresses.
>>> I find the idea that we're going to make OUR IPv4 addresses more
>>> easily available to folks in the APNIC region than they are to folks
>>> here at home to be highly objectionable.
>>  Per RFC 2050, IP address space is allocated to each of the RIRs
>>  according to its established need.  Referring to such address
>>  space as OUR addresses (with the implication that it is to be
>>  used in region due to our imminent need) does make perfect sense.
>> [...]
>> Note - another option (if the community is concerned about ARIN's
>> free pool being depleted for future xfers) would be to simply
>> disqualify all space issued henceforth from ARIN's available pool
>> from future specified transfer until the ARIN has no free space
>> remaining.
> John,
> I could bend on the desire to rush 2011-1 through. Rushing is usually
> destructive but I can bend. I can bend on the desire to integrate the
> change with section 8.3. It's certain to have unintended consequences
> but who am I to tell the community not to shoot itself in the foot. I
> might even be sold on the idea that allowing other regions some
> limited access to our remaining free pool is a generous and worthy
> thing to do. It'll be gone soon enough anyway; why not be nice guys?
> I can't bend on the idea that we'll let other regions set their own,
> LESS-stringent-than-ARIN rules for consuming ARIN addresses while we
> continue to apply more restrictive rules to identical registrants here
> at home. That is beyond careless stewardship. If I may borrow your
> turn of phrase, it violates a fundamental expectation of any fair and
> equitable industry self-regulation.

Can you back up this claim with any form of evidence or fact? I don't believe
that the other RIRs have less-stringent-than-ARIN policies as you claim. At
least not to any meaningful extent.


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