[arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call

CJ Aronson cja at daydream.com
Fri Oct 21 09:57:58 EDT 2011


I have a question for you. Right now ARIN's policy is sometimes stricter
than in other regions.  Having gotten address space in the past from ARIN,
RIPE and APNIC this could seriously be debated but the perception is that
ARIN is more difficult. This is based on the policies developed in this
region for the acquisition of address space.  Do you want to make those
policies less restrictive for transfers than for getting address space from
the free pool?

I feel that there would be a huge public outcry if another region changed
their needs based policy specifically for transfers to make it easier than
their regular needs based policy for getting space from whatever free pool
they have left.  APNIC has a policy in last call right now to specifically
add needs basis back in (in essence making their policy more stringent) so
that they can be compatible and get transfers from this region.

I am interested in peoples' thoughts on this.  Should we have two different
justifications for need, one for transfers and one for the free pool?


On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 7:35 AM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:42 AM, David Farmer <farmer at umn.edu> wrote:
> > once you scratch the surface and start looking at how
> > such a policy will work from a practical point of view things get ugly
> very
> > fast and it no longer looks as fair as it did on the surface.
> David,
> I make the same claim about the text on the table. We could argue for
> days whether overall it's more or less fair than making a registrant
> meet both RIR's policies, but at the end of the argument the truth
> remains that the text on the table is not fair to would-be ARIN-region
> recipients.
> Would it be unreasonable to suggest that any unavoidable unfairness in
> this, ARIN's process, be weighted in favor of ARIN's registrants
> rather than against them?
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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