[arin-ppml] ARIN-2011-1: ARIN Inter-RIR Transfers - Last Call

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Wed Oct 19 17:17:05 EDT 2011

On 10/19/11 14:36 CDT, William Herrin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:11 PM, ARIN<info at arin.net>  wrote:
>> 8.3 Transfers to Specified Recipients
>> In addition to transfers under section 8.2, IPv4 number resources may be
>> released to ARIN by the authorized resource holder or another RIR, in
>> whole or in part, for transfer to another specified organizational
>> recipient.  Organizations in the ARIN region may receive transferred
>> number resources under RSA if they can demonstrate the need for such
>> resources in the amount which they can justify under current ARIN policies.
>> IPv4 address resources may be transferred to organizations in another
>> RIR's service region if they demonstrate need to their region's RIR,
>> according to that RIR's policies. Inter-regional transfers may take
>> place only via RIRs who agree to the transfer and share compatible,
>> needs-based policies. Such resources must be transferred in blocks of
>> /24 or larger and will become part of the resource holdings of the
>> recipient RIR.
> Am I the only one who doesn't think that transfers between ARIN
> registrants and transfers between RIR's should be mashed into the same
> policy subsection?

Bill that is good feed back, I will consider it, do other feel similarly?

However, let me explain why I was thinking of it as one and the same all 

To complete a inter-regional transfer you should more or less just be 
reusing the first half or last half of the current in region policy. 
Then the other half is completed by the other RIR according to their 
policies.  It seems duplicate to more or less repeat the same policy 
components in an inter-regional policy.  Also, I'm fairly confident we 
don't want any differences between the in region transfer policy and the 
appropriate local half of the inter-regional transfer policy.

> Besides, doesn't this language prevent inter-region address transfer
> due to mergers or acquisitions? If I want to buy a web hosting shop
> and move it off shore, why should I be denied?

I don't remember inter-regional M&A coming up before, but from 
discussion with Staff last week it appears this has been some small 
demand for this for a while now.  However, its not clear to me that most 
of the community was think of this issue when we discussed 
inter-regional transfers.  That's not to say we shouldn't, but I'm just 
not sure we should try to do it all in one bite anyway.

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