[arin-ppml] 2011-1 dissent Was: Re: ARIN-2011-1: ARINInter-RIRTransfers - Last Call
michael+ppml at burnttofu.net
Tue Oct 25 15:49:43 EDT 2011
On 10/25/11 10:02 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Randy Whitney wrote:
>> On 10/25/2011 12:24 PM, John Curran wrote:
>>> Note - another option (if the community is concerned about ARIN's
>>> free pool being depleted for future xfers) would be to simply
>>> disqualify all space issued henceforth from ARIN's available pool
>>> from future specified transfer until the ARIN has no free space
>>> remaining. This is an imperfect control (due to the ability with
>>> some effort to swap out older assignments) but might be sufficient
>>> under the circumstances.
>> I oppose this new wording. I can think of just as many hypothetical
>> opposite cases where this would cause future problems as those in the
>> vocal tiny protectionist minority against adopting the transfer policy
>> in the first place would, in support of this wording.
> To be clear, I definitely was not recommending such a change, but only
> pointing it out as a potential mechanism that had not had any discussion
> to date. The need for _any_ additional controls is clearly still a matter
> of active discussion by the community.
Part of the problem is that there are too many distortions caused by the
uneven run-out in the various regions. I see this discussion as an
attempt to ensure that we are affixing the doily on the rump of IPv4 in
the most precise manner possible. There is a limit to the extent that
policy tweaking can do that, as the current market distortion is
A major way to reduce the current distortion, while continuing to
provide IPv4 space to those who need it, is to liberalize (contra Mike
Burns) the allocation policy from the free pool and make it consistent
with the transfer policy. ARIN currently has the largest free pool, and
as long as that's the case, we will have to sit here and wring our hands
about the last few bits of IPv4 trickling to another region while we
shoot legitimate ISPs in the foot by making them request IPv4 space in
three-month chunks. I'd be all for removing this text from NRPM 22.214.171.124:
"When ARIN receives its last /8, by IANA implementing section 10.4.2.2,
the length of supply that an organization may request will be reduced.
An organization may choose to request up to a 3-month supply of IP
I continue to support 2011-1, as I did in Philadelphia, and I support
making the needs polices consistent, transfer-vs-free-pool.
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