[arin-ppml] What do you think of 2011-1 (now in Last Call)?

Bill Sandiford bill at telnetcommunications.com
Tue Nov 8 21:56:44 EST 2011

Hi All,

I've stayed out of the PPML debate on this one so far, but I'm going to
take a moment now and give everyone my thoughts.

First of all, in the interests of full disclosure, I want to put something
on the record.  I, speaking for myself personally, do not like the idea of
Inter-RIR transfers at all.  The reasons why are irrelevant to this
discussion so I won't go into them here.

That being said, my duty as an AC member is to work productively on
policies that are desired by the community whether or not they align with
my personal views.  This is one of those cases where my personal views do
not align with the will of the community so I have "checked my personal
views at the door".  It is clear that the community wants an Inter-RIR
transfer policy and I will work hard to ensure that it is done properly.

Now on to this policy itself.

I believe that as part of the process, any policy text that gets
implemented should go before the community at a PPM.  The current text has
never seen a PPM, and if the current course is stayed it never will.  In
fact, the current policy text, in its entirety, was drafted by an AC
Member less than 24 hours before it was advanced to last call.  As an AC
Member, I only saw this text a few hours before I was asked to vote on it.
 This seems very very wrong to me.

If this was text that was merely revised I might be able to support this.
But this is not *revised* text, this is *completely rewritten* text.  Not
a single sentence from a version presented at any PPM is in this text.

Not only has the text been re-written, but it has changed sections too.

I won't go out as far as others have to say that this is an "end run" on
the PDP, but I certainly believe that a 100% revision by the AC at last
call is beyond my interpretation of the *spirit* of the PDP.  I will
however note that it is my opinion only.

For all of the reasons above, I do NOT support the policy as it stands now
in last call.  I believe this policy needs to stay on the docket to be
cleaned up, presented at the next PPM, and then adopted (assuming the
community wishes for it to be at that time).


On 11-11-07 6:11 PM, "Robert Seastrom" <ppml at rs.seastrom.com> wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>By my count, since it went to last call we've heard from 19 distinct
>people in threads involving 2011-1 ("ARIN INTER-RIR TRANSFERS").
>Of those people, 12 were in favor, 5 were against, and 2 did not make a
>clear statement.
>2011-1 is in Last Call until November 16th.  If you have an opinion on it
>the AC would love to hear from you.  Please reply to this message and
>state clearly in the first couple of sentences whether you support or
>oppose 2011-1 as written.  Everyone's opinion is appreciated.
>We would like to take this up at our call on Wednesday the 16th, which is
>at 1600 EST.  To make sure your voice is heard, please respond no later
>than 1200 EST (0900 PST, 1700 UTC) on Wednesday, November 16th 2011.
>Thank you,
>-r (Shepherd, 2011-1).
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