[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-151 Limiting Needs Requirements for IPv4 Transfers

Matthew Kaufman matthew at matthew.at
Wed May 25 02:43:34 EDT 2011

On May 25, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:

> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:03 AM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>> Come on. If they're going to game the system by creating multiple orgs to beat the /12 rule, they'll also game the system by using their extensive experience working with ARIN to pass needs assessment tests, or create new fake multihomed orgs and use their untestable 3-month need to get a bunch of space, or lots of other things.
>> And either *all* of those are fraud, or none of them are.
> Creating new organizations = Easy.  Just a little extra paperwork,
> some nominal filing fees, legal documents, and about five minutes for a
> clerk to register the additional organizations with the relevant authorities.
> And not fraudulent.  Each entity applying for addresses really could easily be
> made a separate legitimate organization, and they would not be "lying"  to
> say they are not the same org.
> Passing needs assessments tests, following the rules,  without
> justified need existing =  Hard/Impossible.

Totally disagree. There's any number of consultants who specialize in this.

Plus you simply create new orgs (which you claim is easy) and ask for an initial allocation for them associated with their grandiose (and plausible) business plans.

Matthew Kaufman

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