[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Jimmy Hess mysidia at gmail.com
Mon May 23 01:51:10 EDT 2011

> [...] If ARIN revokes
> the addresses from the speculators, the value they can get for them becomes

If ARIN revokes resources from a pure speculator who has no need for IPs and is
ignoring NRPM, the speculator incurs a loss that is limited to the
cost of acquiring
the revoked resources, and any anticipated proceeds of selling revoked

That's the point --  the threat of revokation has very few teeth, if
the applicant does
not actually need any IP resources.    They really have nothing extra to lose,
other than the item being speculated upon.

This may be a very small loss, compared to the potential award, if the
believes IPv4 number resources will become valuable. An IPv4 address speculator
might operate hundreds of organizations, each with their own "speculated" block.

The speculator is likely to be able to avoid revokation long enough to either
dispose of the resources through 8.3 transfer,  OR  by  transferring the
"IP address holding organizations"  containing the various speculated
upon blocks,
to the resource recipients.

If an end user or ISP who requires number resources for addressing their network
has resources revoked, the loss is much larger.

The possibility of 'speculation organizations', and using M and A
transfers to dispose
of speculated resources  (where a speculator simply buys or sells
_organizations_ to
indirectly transfer IP resources) might be good argument  (if speculation is
to be discouraged) for requiring IP address  resources involved in non-legacy
merger/acquisition transfers to be efficiently utilized  _both_ before
and after the
transfer,  for the transfer to be allowed,  or for it to be allowed
for the organization
to continue to utilize resources after being acquired.

Yes...  it should be considered whether it is likely  / whether it
will be likely for there to
be sufficient encouragement for rogues to ignore ARIN policies, and
even the law, to
any significant extent,  and/or if that type of speculation will have
any adverse effect
on the  IPv4 community.

Not that it should be  _assumed_  there are masses of rogue speculators waiting
as we speak for their opportunity to ignore agreements/the law/ARIN
policies  and
start making false apps or doing secret transfers under the table, either.

It's not even going to be too well known outside of the RIRs and
technical community
that IPv4 resources are running out;  the very idea of more than one
or two speculators
/could/ be a fiction.


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