[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Thu May 19 21:21:16 EDT 2011

On May 19, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

> Blake,
> Is having an emergency supplier of IP addresses a negative for the community?

If they are charging a premium for those addresses and preventing them from being used by others with need in order to create
that emergency supply, then, yes.

> Is having a temporary supplier of IP addresses a negative for the community?

If they are preventing the IPs from going to permanent uses with need and laying dormant in between temporary needs, then,

> Is having a supplier for long-range plans a negative for the community?

If they are supporting the long range plans of a few at the detriment of the short term needs of the many, then, yes.

> Is this what stewarship has become, having a few elites making these kinds of decisions about which businesses the community finds positive or negative?

That is not a valid characterization of what is going on or of the PDP in my opinion.

> What's wrong with letting the bad ones go broke and the good ones succeed as measures of their positive or negative attributes?

Cash is not the ultimate arbiter of communal good. Every attempt to make it so has failed miserably.


> Regards,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Blake Dunlap
> To: Mike Burns
> Cc: Tom Vest ; arin-ppml at arin.net
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 18:10, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:
> What difference does it make if space is sitting in a broker's inventory or the inventory of ARIN's STLS? What about the many other examples I gave where the current needs requirement would not be met? Like temporary use, emergency suppliers, lessors, or those with planning horizons longer than ARIIN dictat?
> All of these have been previously responded to, just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it hasn't already been answered.
> As a recap, every example you have listed above is a negative for the community for the benefit of one actor, or completely unrelated to what you are trying to push in this proposal.
> -Blake
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