[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Mike Burns mike at nationwideinc.com
Thu May 19 17:08:18 EDT 2011

Hi Kevin,

Making policy which brings more supply into the market will reduce prices 
for the big guy and the little guy.
One element of my proposal is removing the threat of ARIN recovery action 
for RSA holders.
My hope is that this will provide the incentive for holders of underutilized 
assets to sell them without a fear of an audit.
I think that big companies probably have the edge in gaming needs analyses; 
whether or not they would use that edge is of course an open question.
But simplifiying transactions, as my proposal attempts to do, favors the 
small guy, IMO.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Kargel" <kkargel at polartel.com>
To: <matthew at matthew.at>; "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com>
Cc: <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
>> Behalf Of Matthew Kaufman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 2:26 PM
>> To: Owen DeLong
>> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois
>> Accurate
>> On 5/19/2011 12:05 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> > It was not intended as such and I apologize if it came across that
>> > way. My point is that your policy
>> > would serve the interest of a select few well capitalized
>> > organizations significantly better than
>> > the interests of the overall community.
>> If "a select few well capitalized organizations" are going to corner the
>> market on space, doesn't that require them to purchase the maximum
>> amount of space from existing holders at fairly high prices?
>> That might serve the *financial* interests of the overall community
>> better than policies where the number of buyers is limited by needs
>> assessment.
>> It also provides existing holders with more cash to use for their IPv6
>> deployments.
>> Matthew Kaufman
>> _______________________________________________
> I am a relatively small time operator.  It does not benefit me one whit if 
> the big boys buy IP's from the big boys.  It might keep me from getting 
> IP's if/when I need them.
> I am part of the overall community.
> We are managing policy for the community, not just for the top ten ISP's 
> or for a few traders who want to organize a market to make some quick 
> cash.  Let's keep the small business and non-profit orgs in mind.  This is 
> not all about the almighty dollar and how to get more of them.
> Kevin
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