[arin-ppml] Draft Proposal 2011-1 - Comments request - Globally Coordinated Transfer Policy

Bill Darte BillD at cait.wustl.edu
Sat May 14 08:33:59 EDT 2011

Thanks Jeffrey,
So, you believe that all legacy space originally captured within the ARIN db to be 'ARIN Resources'?  And, if any of that space were to come available while there is need within ARIN it should be used in the ARIN region....even if there is need outside the ARIN region as well?
And, if the resources were to come available and there was ONLY need outside the ARIN region, (however unlikely), then the resources should be HELD against future ARIN need, even though there was need outside of ARIN region?


From: jeffrey.lyon at gmail.com on behalf of Jeffrey Lyon
Sent: Fri 5/13/2011 5:46 PM
To: William Herrin
Cc: Bill Darte; arin ppml
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Proposal 2011-1 - Comments request - Globally Coordinated Transfer Policy

On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:08 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Bill Darte <BillD at cait.wustl.edu> wrote:
>> The policy text reviewed at the meeting was as follows:
>> Any RIR's resource registrant may transfer IPv4 addresses to the resource
>> registrant of another RIR as long as the two RIRs agree and maintain
>> compatible, needs-based transfer policies that exercise Internet stewardship
>> consistent with the values expressed in RFC2050.
>> 1. Identify support or objection
> Hi Bill,
> Oppose.
>> 2. If objections exist, to succinctly identify what they are..and,
> a. I'm not convinced we should be contemplating inter-region transfers
> prior to ARIN's free pool exhausting.
> b. I'm not convinced *any* of the 5 RIRs adhere to RFC2050's "values"
> except in a very loose way... which makes it a weak and subjective
> place to hang a policy.
>> 3. How objections might be concisely remedied in text
> "ARIN shall permit the transfer of IPv4 addresses between ARIN
> registrants and registrants of other RIRs provided that:
> a. Both ARIN and the other RIR agree to the transfer,
> b. ARIN and the other RIR have functionally reciprocal inter-region
> transfer policies, and
> c. Both the offering and receiving registrants qualify for the
> transfer under ARIN's normal intra-region resource transfer policies
> save that one of the registrants is not in the ARIN region and will
> therefore not be under contract to ARIN."
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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I strongly oppose any measure that would open the doors to ARIN
resources flowing outside of ARIN.

Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net <http://www.blacklotus.net/> 
Black Lotus Communications - AS32421
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