[arin-ppml] Draft Proposal 2011-1 - Comments request - Globally Coordinated Transfer Policy

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Fri May 13 16:06:52 EDT 2011

On May 13, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>>> 2. If objections exist, to succinctly identify what they are..and,
>>> The references to RFC 2050 which in the last 6 months has enjoyed
>>> almost universal agreement that it's not relevant; it was written in
>>> 1996 in a time and place that is far different than today, it was a
>>> Best *Current* Practice (emphasis added) "BCP".
>> Just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true. I have only
>> heard a small handful of people argue that RFC 2050 is not relevant.
>> The vast majority of the community seems to still believe that it is.
> And just because you keep saying that it's not true doesn't mean that
> it's not. There's ample evidence supporting my claim including
> activity at the ICANN ASO AC and NRO NC to deprecate it. That kinda
> sorta speaks pretty loudly. There has also been plenty of discussion
> here with most agreeing that it's "outdated". Please, feel free to
> demonstrate that it's relevant in some way.
The fact that there is activity (and not action) is not an indication that
there is widespread consensus, merely evidence that it is under

I do not interpret the discussion the way you do. I don't see most people
as saying that it is outdated. I see a vocal handful of people saying
it is outdated and most people saying nothing or agreeing that it is not.

>>> Finally, how is this proposal being coordinated globally?
>> I believe the beauty of this particular proposal is that it does not
>> need to be. It spells out a way in which other RIRs can pass
>> compatible policies which would allow ARIN to approve
>> such transfers.
> That means it will be mostly incompatible with the intent of global
> coordination. I suggest we remove the coordinated part and simply call
> it inter-RIR transfer process. It doesnt require global adoption nor
> ICANN approval as far as I can tell.

I have no problem with changing the title accordingly, but, I think the
title is a no-op anyway. It does not say coordinated anywhere in the
policy text.


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