[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Mike Burns mike at nationwideinc.com
Thu May 12 18:05:25 EDT 2011

>> As far as what you term a non-operator speculator, you see the risk of 
>> gaming the needs analysis.
>> The same risks lead to not-notifying ARIN and continuing to use the 
>> addresses under the purchaser's name, leaving Whois in more disarray.

>That is a potential risk that some will take, whereas others may
>decide to avoid doing speculation in this particular market.

Yup, they can ignore ARIN, game ARIN, or not speculate under current 
needs-based policy for transfers.

>One other point regarding transfers from a party with actual need -
>the risks may increase depending on any policy constraints on the
>supplier of the IP addressees (e.g. if you qualify based on need,
>but the party you're getting them from does not have that amount
>of space in contiguous blocks that match policy constraints, or if
>you are seeking a small number of addresses which is less than any
>minimum size requirement, etc.)

John, I'm not really clear on what you mean here.
I always assumed there was a buyer and a seller first, then an ARIN needs 
assessment later.
I figured the buyer and seller would reach agreement on what amount is being 
transferred, and then they would ask ARIN to bless the deal.
I know that you have been pleading for some advance consideration of 
transfer policy as deals are being formulated.
So I think it's worth asking for clarification of the last paragraph.


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