[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Mike Burns mike at nationwideinc.com
Thu May 12 15:11:02 EDT 2011

Hi John,

Does ARIN get to keep the money for auctioned addresses?
I actually considered that this might be a good use for some last segment of 
the final /8!
As long as the funds were used by ARIN to beef up its legal staff in the 
effort to increase ARIN's title services.
I think ARIN is going to be tasked with making some dicey decisions in the 
future related to conflicting claims for control of netblocks.
It might be a good idea to increase the size of the legal war chest.
I am not seriously proposing this, please no flames.
I support needs requirements for free pool allocations, even if they are 
less efficient than the market.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>
To: "Matthew Kaufman" <matthew at matthew.at>
Cc: <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

> On May 12, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>> I'd argue the reverse, actually. If there is a needs basis then the top N 
>> ISPs have an advantage in that they are already experts at manipulating 
>> the needs basis. (And it really is manipulation, because any of them 
>> could actually get by with much much less than they already have if the 
>> "need" took into account things like forcing customers to use NAT)
>> One could argue, for instance, that *with* a needs basis Comcast might 
>> end up holding nearly all the space... but without a needs basis it might 
>> be an investment banking firm instead, who'd then lease the space out to 
>> move providers than just Comcast.
> Matthew -
>   If (for argument) we accept the premise that the "invisible hand" of a 
> well-
>   functioning market will result in more efficient resource utilization, 
> then
>   would it also be the case that ARIN should not issue additional IP 
> address
>   space from the available pool based on need, but instead employ a market
>   function to improve the overall efficiency of resource utilization?
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
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