[arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

Sweeting, John john.sweeting at twcable.com
Wed May 11 15:42:58 EDT 2011

I actually have a 10-1 pm that day

----- Reply message -----
From: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
Date: Wed, May 11, 2011 12:15 pm
Subject: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate
To: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com>
Cc: "arin-ppml at arin.net" <arin-ppml at arin.net>

Hi Owen and McTim,

I, along with the APNIC community, could make the claim that you are
abandoning the stewardship role in maintaining Whois accuracy, and
sacrificing that stewardship role on the altar of an ARIN needs policy
developed for the purposes of  free pool allocations that does not comply
with current legal realities.

But charges of abandoning stewardship are inflammatory, and I hope we can
keep to actual discussions of the implications of my proposal without
casting aspersions.

Let's agree that we all seek the highest standards of stewardship, but
disagree on how those standards should be applied.

I think I could characterize your opposition better by saying that you
believe the danger of hoarding and speculation outweigh the risk to whois
Would that be an accurate statement, if not your exclusive objection to the


----- Original Message -----
From: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
To: "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com>
Cc: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>; <arin-ppml at arin.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] IPv4 Transfer Policy Change to Keep Whois Accurate

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> I oppose the policy as written.


> Abandoning our stewardship role for the sake of making it more likely
> people will register their misappropriation of community resources is
> like legalizing bank robbery in the hopes that the thieves will pay
> income tax on their ill gotten gains.



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route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel

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