[arin-ppml] transfer conditions

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue May 10 01:33:08 EDT 2011

On May 9, 2011, at 9:36 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:

> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>> On May 9, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> All of the versions of the LRSA, and all of the modifications of "The RSA" are "an RSA"
>>> I wouldn't like it, but obviously ARIN does not like forcing the recieving party to sign an RSA,
>> No, they're fine with "an RSA", just not "The RSA and Only The RSA"
>> Matthew Kaufman
> When I say and see "RSA" in the 8.3 transfer policy; I take that to mean
> the unmodified, standard RSA signed  for new allocations by ARIN.
> And "LRSA" to be the special modified RSA  for legacy holders.
A lot of us did. Unfortunately, ARIN staff did not.

> Do you suggest ARIN staff have taken a liberty to not implement it in
> that manner?
That is what John Curran has stated when he explained that M$ signed
a modified LRSA for the numbers they acquired from Nortel.

> I expect transfer recipients to be required to sign the RSA equivalent to
> the standard RSA signed by receivers of new allocations.

> That is, a RSA that does not provide the transfer recipient any benefits,
> more rights,  provide any fewer restrictions on the transfer recipient, than
> the new allocation RSA,  and does not restrict ARIN or cause ARIN to surrender
> any rights not surrendered when the allocation recipient enteres into
> a standard RSA.
That is my preference as well.


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