[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-146 Clarify Justified Need for Transfers

George Herbert george.herbert at gmail.com
Thu May 5 18:42:12 EDT 2011

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> On May 5, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
>> On 5/5/2011 3:04 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> True. What it does is remove the non-needers from the pool of people you
>>> have to out-bid. What I don't understand is how adding non-needers to the
>>> pool would help.
>> Please clarify how Proposal 146 adds "non-needers" to the pool, as that certainly is not the intent of the policy proposal I wrote.
>> Matthew Kaufman
> Sorry... Conflation of multiple discussions....
> Prop. 146 doesn't add non-needers, it adds optimistic speculative need.

It refines the definition of speculation; all requests are at least 3
month speculation or extrapolations now, and those of existing holders
w/records are longer.  This just levels the bar (i.e., new entrants
are more speculative, but we put their speculation on the same level
as that of existing holders who are extrapolating).

I'm not sure that I support 146 as written, but I think that the
intent is good (level the playing field in terms of resource use time
scale) as long as we ensure that there are reasonable limits to keep
this useful to new entrants but not someone who's outright speculating
/ hoarding and not using.

Perhaps a clause allowing for ARIN staff to evaluate if credible
multihoming need or other legitimate justification exists, in which
case the time scales are leveled, or a clause allowing prior
non-direct-allocation usage to be considered for needs justification
for a longer timescale, in which case the time scales are leveled.

-george william herbert
george.herbert at gmail.com

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