[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-146 Clarify Justified Need for Transfers

David Farmer farmer at umn.edu
Mon May 2 22:14:23 EDT 2011

On 5/2/11 13:00 CDT, ARIN wrote:

> ARIN-prop-146 Clarify Justified Need for Transfers
> Proposal Originator: Matthew Kaufman
> Proposal Version: 1
> Date: 2 May 2011
> Proposal type: new
> Policy term: permanent
> Policy statement:
> Add a subsection to Section 8 (Transfers) of the NRPM:
> "Justified Need" for resources associated with a transfer shall be
> determined using the "4.2.4 ISP Additional Requests" criteria applied as
> though the recipient has been a subscriber member of ARIN for at least
> one year (whether or not that is the case).

Do you indent to eliminate the ability for end users to be the recipient 
of transfers?  You seem to be doing that.

Would you please state your intended result for this policy in plain 
English, because I'm confused as to your intended outcome.

Like; "All ISP should be able to get a 12month supply" for example, if 
that is your intended outcome.

> Rationale:
> An organization which is not able to obtain its initial IPv4 address
> assignment from ARIN post-runout would otherwise be limited to
> purchasing only a 3-month supply (because the language in
> regarding 8.3 transfers is not triggered).
> An organization which has only recently received its first allocation
> under the "last /8" criteria is also otherwise limited to purchasing
> only a 3-month supply (because the language in is again not
> applicable).
> There is also ambiguity if is applied in that a transfer to
> a new organization might only need to show need for a /20 (because that
> is what is specifically called out) even though they are receiving a
> much larger block.
> There is also ambiguity with regard to transfers under 8.2 where the
> receiving organization is a new organization... not at all clear how
> "justified need" has been or should be determined.
> Timetable for implementation: immediate
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