[arin-ppml] Analogies

John Curran jcurran at arin.net
Mon May 2 19:13:11 EDT 2011

On May 3, 2011, at 12:47 AM, William Herrin wrote:
> Excess baggage:
> Section 9. Property rights are immaterial to the provision of whois
> and dns services yet the registrant is asked to quit any such claims
> as a condition of the LRSA.

That is correct, and unlikely to change. It may be possible to adjust
slightly to better specify retention of the right of exclusive use in
accordance with policy and I shall look into this presently.

> Section 8. Annual audit. Routine auditing of the registrant's use of
> IP addresses is immaterial to the provision of whois and dns services.

I do concede this now to be potential "excess baggage" considering
the direction that the community has taken, and it is definitely 
worth reviewing for removal.

> Section 7. Current and future policies. Compliance with tomorrow's
> NRPM is immaterial to the provision of whois and dns services.

Incorrect.  You may be the registrant and have the use of the 
resource in accordance with policies, but other parties have
some rights with respect the same registration records.  For
example, if the community adopts a policy which adds a new type 
of contact for resource records, then you are going to get one.
Similarly if the community changes the policies regarding the
visibility of various fields contained within the registry.
While there is contractual protection against policy changes 
which inhibit your use of the resource, the general case is 
policy changes to the registry apply, and the registry services
are DNS and Whois.

> Section 14e. Nothing in my "summary" requires ARIN to discontinue
> whois and rdns services should the registrant decide to stop paying.
> 14e not only requires ARIN to discontinue services, it requires ARIN
> to revoke the resources, putting them into a process resulting in
> reallocation to someone else.

Correct.  A fundamental goal for ARIN is maintaining track of all of the 
assigned number resources in the region, which clearly precludes us from 
just deleting registry records.  Obviously, that might change but only
if structure of the Internet number registry system changes to have some
form of overlapping service regions, as noted in other threads on this
mailing list.

I've got section 8 and 9 review/research tasks and will pursue.


John Curran
President and CEO

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