[arin-ppml] Fw: Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon May 2 18:28:57 EDT 2011

So your argument boils down to:

	I don't like who the communities elected, so, I want to shop for a different forum?


On May 2, 2011, at 1:13 PM, Mike Burns wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> Just read the names of the committe members.
> Enough said.
> Regards,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "McTim" <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> To: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
> Cc: <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Fw: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:
>>> Can you be more specific? The ICANN ASO? the ICANN BoT? the IANA?
>> Hi Tim,
>> Keep going, all the organizations above are suspect due to the fact that
>> they are all comprised of the same basic group of RIR designees.
> The RIRs do not "designate" or appoint anyone to any of the above
> bodies.  The ASO AC members are elected by their respective RIR
> communities.  Those ASO AC members do have a role to play in choosing
> 2 (IIRC) of the ICANN Board.  Neither the RIRs nor the ASO get to
> choose IANA staff.
>> I would take it to NTIA like DNS.
> I think you overestimate the role of the NTIA in the DNS.
>> And I would use DNS as a template for the creation of the global policy
>> restrictions John Curran asked about, which restrictions would apply to all
>> registries, regional or commercial.
>> Just as all DNS registrars must meet certain qualifications, so would
>> private registries of number space.
>> Let the NTIA hear arguments from the proposer and from the ASO, the ICANN
>> BoT, and IANA, although I suspect they will all sound the same.
> Back in the 1990's, the idea was for the USG to divest itself (via
> ICANN) of the naming and numbering roles.  That process is still
> ongoing, and one can see a certain acceleration of divestiture in
> recent years.  The Affirmation of Commitments is, I think, an example
> of this.
> As DF has indicated, this (asking the NTIA to make this kind of
> determination) would be a real non-starter for the global Internet
> Governance community.
> -- 
> Cheers,
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel 
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