[arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Mon May 2 17:28:20 EDT 2011

If money and authority speak with one voice, then, we have already lost because we
have sold the internet off to the economic special interests and abandoned the concept
of a free (as in speech) and public forum for the democratization of communication across societies.


On May 2, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Mike Burns wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> OK, then let the IETF and either the DoC or NTIA hash it out, since they are all entities above the RIRs.
> I think the contracts with the RIRs you reference are not actually contracts but further MoAs.
> I think there is enough separation between the IETF and the RIRs that there would be an honest appraisal of the proposal.
> And if money and authority speak with one voice, I suppose it will be heard.
> Regards,
> Mike
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us>
> To: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
> Cc: "Jimmy Hess" <mysidia at gmail.com>; "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>; <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:
>> The authority flows down from the US Dept of Commerce. It doesn't go from
>> there to the RIRs and back up to ICANN.
> Mike,
> This is not accurate.
> ICANN operates IANA under at least two contracts, one to the IETF and
> one to the DOC. DOC provides the money. IETF provides the authority.
> http://www.icann.org/en/general/ietf-icann-mou-01mar00.htm
> http://www.icann.org/en/general/ietf-iana-agreement-v8.htm
> I could swear there are also contracts with the RIRs themselves which
> spell out the RIR's responsibility to the IETF and the IANA's
> responsibility to the RIRs but my google-fu is failing me.
> Regardless, the source of authority does not derive from the DOC and
> does not pass through ICANN on its way to the RIRs.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
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