[arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN

Keith W. Hare Keith at jcc.com
Mon May 2 14:49:44 EDT 2011

But what is it about ARIN that is broken? What exactly do you think needs to be fixed?

The only thing I've gotten out of the discussions so far is that some people think there is money to be made by providing IPv4 addresses based on willingness and ability to pay rather than ARIN's current demonstrated need policies.

Why is it to my benefit if someone else makes money? Particularly if it perturbs the current mechanisms in a way that costs me money?

Keith Hare

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Burns [mailto:mike at nationwideinc.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:13 PM
To: Keith W. Hare; arin-ppml at arin.net
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN

I understand and appreciate that ARIN has faithfully fulfilled its 
stewardship role, and I am in the camp of don't fix what ain't broke.

But times are changing, these issues are upon us because the promise of 
gradual transition has failed and the problem of exhaust has arrived.

Some might say that public education has failed, and vouchers are a result 
of that failure, but that can be debated.

What can't be debated is that the IPv6 transition has failed to proceed 
gracefully, and conflict over valuable resources are bound to occur.

This issue seems to elicit analogies, and the analogies can take on a life 
and argument of their own, so I shall try to refrain from them in the 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith W. Hare" <Keith at jcc.com>
To: <arin-ppml at arin.net>; "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 12:08 PM
Subject: RE: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict 
ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN


You wrote:

  The registry will stand or fall based on its performance in
  a competitive environment.

  The idea is similar to the concept of school vouchers. With
  school vouchers, you can take your child out of public school,
  and put him in private school. The public schools lose some
  money as the vouchers are created, just as ARIN may lose some
  registration fee revenue.

  The concept is that competitive pressures will be applied
  to the public resources which will increase the efficiency
  of the public schools, or in our case, the efficiency of the

As it happens, I've spent some amount of time looking at school funding in 
the rural Ohio school district where I live. My observations on the concepts 
of school vouchers and competition as a driver of school efficiency are:

1. While school vouchers may provide some benefit in urban areas with large 
student populations, they are of no benefit in rural areas.

2. At least in Ohio, school voucher programs have cost funding for rural 
school districts while providing no benefit to rural students.

3. The issues in public school districts are mostly not related to 

So maybe your analogy is valid.

>From my point of view, ARIN is operating very efficiently. I do not see how 
getting lawyers and "title" insurance involved is going to be more 
efficient -- any time I have to deal with a lawyer it costs me time and 

Keith Hare 

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