[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-153 Correct erroneous syntax in NRPM 8.3

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue May 31 03:11:07 EDT 2011


I think we kind of have to accept that circumstance because it has little differentiation from
when ARIN subdivides address space the same way.

Owen

On May 30, 2011, at 7:16 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:

> That’s a good goal, but how does this policy manage disaggregation where a larger block owner has the opportunity to sell to different buyers?  For example, the owner of a /8 that has an unused /10 could sell /12’s to four different buyers.   On one hand there’s a desire to minimize disaggregation, on the other hand if there’s unused space that others with a validated need could use, why not.
>  
> Frank
>  
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:28 AM
> To: frnkblk at iname.com
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-153 Correct erroneous syntax in NRPM 8.3
>  
> If they can find two /15s that started out as /15s, then there's no problem. The issue comes if they, for example,
> find someone with a /8 and want to get two disparate /15s from within that /8. The intent here is to require
> the /8 holder to renumber enough to make a contiguous /14 available rather than transferring two disparate
> /15s and disaggregating them.
>  
> Owen
>  
> On May 29, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m confused.  If an organization can demonstrate need for a /14 and they can only find a /15 in the market today, why should they have to wait a whole year if they can find another /15 just a few months later?  Why should we penalize them for the fact that the supply at the time of need is low?  Is it because you want someone else with demonstrable need to get that second /15?  If that’s the case, won’t that be based on who’s willing to pay top dollar for that /15? 
>  
> Frank
>  
> From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 10:46 PM
> To: Brett Frankenberger
> Cc: arin-ppml at arin.net
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-153 Correct erroneous syntax in NRPM 8.3
>  
> <snip>
>  
> What I would think makes more sense as policy would be:
>  
> Organizations may transfer multiple address blocks but
> no organization shall receive more than one address block
> per year where said address block is smaller
> than its original registered size.
>  
> <snip>
>  
>  

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