[arin-ppml] Draft Proposal 2011-1 - Comments request - Globally Coordinated Transfer Policy

[Owen DeLong]

On May 13, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Martin Hannigan wrote:

> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 2. If objections exist, to succinctly identify what they are..and,
>>> 
>>> The references to RFC 2050 which in the last 6 months has enjoyed
>>> almost universal agreement that it's not relevant; it was written in
>>> 1996 in a time and place that is far different than today, it was a
>>> Best *Current* Practice (emphasis added) "BCP".
>>> 
>> 
>> Just because you keep saying this doesn't make it true. I have only
>> heard a small handful of people argue that RFC 2050 is not relevant.
>> The vast majority of the community seems to still believe that it is.
> 
> And just because you keep saying that it's not true doesn't mean that
> it's not. There's ample evidence supporting my claim including
> activity at the ICANN ASO AC and NRO NC to deprecate it. That kinda
> sorta speaks pretty loudly. There has also been plenty of discussion
> here with most agreeing that it's "outdated". Please, feel free to
> demonstrate that it's relevant in some way.
> 
The fact that there is activity (and not action) is not an indication that
there is widespread consensus, merely evidence that it is under
consideration.

I do not interpret the discussion the way you do. I don't see most people
as saying that it is outdated. I see a vocal handful of people saying
it is outdated and most people saying nothing or agreeing that it is not.

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Finally, how is this proposal being coordinated globally?
>>> 
>> 
>> I believe the beauty of this particular proposal is that it does not
>> need to be. It spells out a way in which other RIRs can pass
>> compatible policies which would allow ARIN to approve
>> such transfers.
> 
> 
> That means it will be mostly incompatible with the intent of global
> coordination. I suggest we remove the coordinated part and simply call
> it inter-RIR transfer process. It doesnt require global adoption nor
> ICANN approval as far as I can tell.

I have no problem with changing the title accordingly, but, I think the
title is a no-op anyway. It does not say coordinated anywhere in the
policy text.

Owen