[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-146 Clarify Justified Need for Transfers

[Jeffrey Lyon]

On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Warren Johnson
<warren at wholesaleinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Based on the fact that you call it "petrol," i'll assume you're not in
>> the United States. My trips to the gas station take about < 5 minutes.
>> I would call that a testament to the free market.
>>
>>As near as I can tell based on significant travel, gasoline or petrol
>>>prices are quite artificially low in the united States compared to the
>>rest of the world. I don't actually know why that is, but, I would say
>>that the energy companies in the US are some of the best examples
>>of free market dysfunction that are available.
>
> If you don't know WHY they are artificially low, then you can't rightly make
> the conclusion that they ARE "artificially" low.
>
>
>>My trips to the gas station take between 5 and 45 minutes, depending
>>on the length of the line. The price of gasoline fluctuates randomly
>>and is obviously  detached from the realities of the costs of the raw
>>materials. The price only drops significantly after it has risen so much
>>so rapidly that there is public outcry and congress starts to seriously
>>consider additional regulation of the industry. Then it drops just enough
>>to silence the cries for regulation.
>
>
> They are not "detached" from the price of the raw material. There are simply
> more factors that adjust the cost like supply, demand, speculation,
> refining, which way the wind blows and the color of the fairies in the
> Wizard of Oz.
>
>
>> But in all fairness, all governments have their hands in the cookie
>> jar. Your government more so from what I can tell.
>>
>>There are a number of possible explanations outside of the government's
>>hand in the cookie jar for the disparity in experiences at the gas pump.
>
> I agree.  One thing is for sure, someone is making a lot of money and that
> can't just be supply and demand.
>
>
>
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I recall reading that the oil company profits are equal to about $0.20
- 0.30/gal. < 10% net margin isn't really anything to become upset
about. Congressional regulation has never actually fixed anything.

I'll try to bring this back on topic by saying that some people
genuinely believe that regulation is good and have other related left
leaning ideologies. That's fine. My intent is not to dissuade you from
those opinions or to spark political debate on the PPML.

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