[arin-ppml] ARIN-prop-146 Clarify Justified Need for Transfers

John Santos JOHN at egh.com
Wed May 4 14:58:16 EDT 2011

On 4 May 2011 matthew at matthew.at wrote:

> On May 4, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > 
> > On May 3, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
> > 
> >> On 5/3/2011 3:42 PM, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Sure... back when there was a free pool, making them jump through the extra hoops every 3 months to show that they're doing the right thing makes (some) sense... but once there isn't, every time they get space might be their last.
> >> 
> >> Oh, and since the "ARIN Community" is mostly made up of the "haves" and has almost no representation (if any) from the "have nots" I have no expectation that there will be widespread support for fixing transfer policies for the "have nots".
> >> 
> > If this is true, it is only because the have-nots have, thus far, chosen not to subscribe to the list and
> > participate. If you know them and feel they are being substantially disadvantaged in this debate, the
> > rational solution is to encourage them to subscribe and chime in.
> I am claiming that the future "have nots" are totally unaware today that they need to participate in order to be able to do what they haven't yet started in the future.
> My 7 year old isn't lobbying for rollbacks on the new restrictions for teen drivers this week either, because he simply hasn't thought about driving himself around enough to realize that his ability to take his brother out with him when he turns 16 has be
> en eliminated in this state.
> Matthew Kaufman

If your 7 year old is desperately seeking IPv4 space 10 years from now, 
then we got much bigger problems than the reputed benefits of a free 
market in IPv4 could either solve or cause.

This whole thread is based on a free market ideology that collapses
when feed-back mechinisms fail due to a hard limit on supply.  Ask any
engineer what happens to a negative feedback mechanism (which is all the
"invisible hand" actually is), when it is driven against hard limits.
(Hint: it fails catastrophically.)

John Santos
Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.
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