[arin-ppml] Fw: Accusation of fundamental, conflictofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN
hannigan at gmail.com
Tue May 3 14:13:59 EDT 2011
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Ray Hunter <v6ops at globis.net> wrote:
> Whilst I don't necessarily agree than an IPv4 address has any "value", and
> it's your idea to create an (artificial) market where address allocations
> attract a hard dollar value (which they traditionally haven't had), I would
We have seen legacy IPv4 addresses space exchange hands for cash.
That's not in question (for most people) and I'm not sure why you
think that it may be.
> note the following concern: Any legal entity that transfers an intangible
> asset across an (international) border for a payment is almost certainly
> going to attract the attention of more than one government entity regarding
> accounting and taxation, not least for Value Added Tax, international
> transfer pricing, avoidance of income tax ......
> See for example
> The ARIN service region includes Canada, many Caribbean and North Atlantic
> islands, and the United States. The Internet is even bigger.
> So would your market free of government restrictions and taxes be
> international, limited to national boundaries? NAFTA? state boundaries? or
> Would corporations and not for profit entities now have to enter an asset
> value in their annual accounts for the value of an IPv4 allocation?
> If something has a value, and can therefore be taxed, it's much more likely
> to attract more government control, not less. Just look at the wireless
> spectrum allocation auctions. Is this what you want for the Internet?
> Be careful what you wish for.
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> My interest is in having a market for the buying and selling of IP addresses
> free from government and psuedo-government restrictions like taxes and
> justification requirements.
Providing a return on the investment initially provided for by the
taxpayers of the United States is not a bad thing. Thinking that one
could or even should be able to engage in transactions involving such
large sums of money and avoid scrutiny by government is "too good to
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