[arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN

[Owen DeLong]

If money and authority speak with one voice, then, we have already lost because we
have sold the internet off to the economic special interests and abandoned the concept
of a free (as in speech) and public forum for the democratization of communication across societies.

Owen

On May 2, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Mike Burns wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> OK, then let the IETF and either the DoC or NTIA hash it out, since they are all entities above the RIRs.
> 
> I think the contracts with the RIRs you reference are not actually contracts but further MoAs.
> 
> I think there is enough separation between the IETF and the RIRs that there would be an honest appraisal of the proposal.
> And if money and authority speak with one voice, I suppose it will be heard.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Herrin" <bill at herrin.us>
> To: "Mike Burns" <mike at nationwideinc.com>
> Cc: "Jimmy Hess" <mysidia at gmail.com>; "John Curran" <jcurran at arin.net>; <arin-ppml at arin.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Accusation of fundamental conflict ofinterest/IPaddress policy pitched directly to ICANN
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Mike Burns <mike at nationwideinc.com> wrote:
>> The authority flows down from the US Dept of Commerce. It doesn't go from
>> there to the RIRs and back up to ICANN.
>> ICANN>>RIRs
> 
> Mike,
> 
> This is not accurate.
> 
> ICANN operates IANA under at least two contracts, one to the IETF and
> one to the DOC. DOC provides the money. IETF provides the authority.
> 
> http://www.icann.org/en/general/ietf-icann-mou-01mar00.htm
> http://www.icann.org/en/general/ietf-iana-agreement-v8.htm
> 
> I could swear there are also contracts with the RIRs themselves which
> spell out the RIR's responsibility to the IETF and the IANA's
> responsibility to the RIRs but my google-fu is failing me.
> 
> Regardless, the source of authority does not derive from the DOC and
> does not pass through ICANN on its way to the RIRs.
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> 
> 
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