[arin-ppml] Call for a study & survey to obtain necessary information for policy development
frnkblk at iname.com
Sun May 1 00:14:01 EDT 2011
A survey would be helpful, but the focus should not be on utilization rates
(what would we do with that information other than a "nice to know"?) but on
what they would want a transfer policy to look like if they wanted to sell
or buy address space.
From: arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces at arin.net] On
Behalf Of John Curran
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 6:51 AM
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Subject: [arin-ppml] Call for a study & survey to obtain necessary
information for policy development
PPML Folks -
Apologies for top-posting, but Mr. Lyon's message which follows
contains a specific call for ARIN to charter a study including
a survey in order to obtain additional information to assist in
I've not seen any discussion of this suggestion; would it be
possible to get feedback from the otherwise shy participants
on the PPML mailing list?
President and CEO
On Apr 29, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
> I would like to go on record and state my position in support Mike
> Burns' idea that IPv4 resources be transitioned into an open market
> exchange. Realizing that i'm making this recommendation without proper
> data and generally going against the current what we should do is
> charter ARIN to conduct a comprehensive study and:
> - Conduct a survey of the public at large, PPML users, full members,
> resource holders, and the AC to gain a clear understanding of
> sentiment for or against an open market.
> - In the survey, ask IPv4 resource holders to anonymously disclose
> their true utilization rates and determine if companies are hoarding
> resources either in hopes of future resale or to cover an arbitrary
> future need.
> - Determine the amount of participants that would come forward if told
> they could resell their space on the open market and ultimately
> determine how much unneeded space is being locked away in loosely
> justified allocations.
> - Determine how many companies actually have IPv6 migration plans and
> ascertain road blocks, either legitimate or financial, that are
> preventing migration.
> - Determine the economic impact. Would resource holders be better off
> selling their resources to more affluent companies who would be able
> to put the space to better use? Might there be a host of struggling
> small businesses who would like to put their /17 - /21 on the balance
> sheet? Are there companies that would purchase IPv4 space at a premium
> if allowed to do so?
> - Determine if resource holders would be encouraged to tighten up
> internal policies and free up more space if there were a fair market
> value assigned to their space.
> - Would resource holders support a model that allowed ARIN to take a
> small commission on resource sales and then discontinue the practice
> of charging an annual fee to its members who are not buying and
> selling resources.
> I'm sure I have colleagues here that could help refine what this study
> would hope to achieve or provide ideas for other data that can be
> Best regards,
> Jeffrey Lyon, Leadership Team
> jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net | http://www.blacklotus.net
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