[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - March 2011

Frank Bulk frnkblk at iname.com
Tue Mar 29 22:44:57 EDT 2011

Escrow companies could play a role in the process.  Nortel and Microsoft are
using one, and I can see them performing some non-authoritative validation,
all for a small fee.


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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:08 AM
To: Scott Leibrand
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Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - March 2011

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Scott Leibrand <scottleibrand at gmail.com>
> As I've done a couple times now, I'd like to expand on my own personal
> opinions on some of the proposals inline below.

As always, thanks. And my thanks to Owen and Marty as well, for
choosing to help those of us in the general community understand your
and their personal thought processes during votes on the proposals.
You exhibit a commitment to an open process above and beyond what some
of your colleagues have been willing to do.

> I have heard from a number of people the concern that some legacy
> holders are reluctant to sign an LRSA because they perceive it to
> require giving up rights to use the address space as they see fit.
> While I largely thing such concerns are exaggerated, they nonetheless
> could represent a barrier if a legacy holder is attempting to make
> space available for 8.3 transfer.
> So I think the question is whether the community thinks it would be
> worthwhile for ARIN to develop a process to validate an address
> holder's legitimacy, the same way they do for the LRSA today, but then
> simply provide some sort of pre-qualification document to the holder
> while he goes out looking for a party to transfer the block to.

Speaking as a legacy holder reluctant to sign an LRSA, I personally
don't have a problem with signing an LRSA when/if I decide I want to
transfer addresses.

WRT reluctance on the part of the buyer... beggars can't be choosers.
There are only so many addresses which will be on the market at any
given time. Addresses that aren't under contract may end up selling
for less than addresses under contract but they'll still sell. The
recipient can use the addresses as soon as I sign a letter of
authorization. It's not a big deal if the completed transfer paperwork
takes a little while as ARIN validates my claim.

I tend to agree with the others who've said that ARIN really shouldn't
be doing a lot of work on behalf of registrants who aren't under
contract. In my mind, ARIN made a basic commitment to maintain the
registrations it inherited without new conditions. However, I think
this sort of transfer qualification activity goes beyond that

Bill Herrin

William D. Herrin ................ herrin at dirtside.com  bill at herrin.us
3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/>
Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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