[arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - March 2011

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at ipinc.net
Fri Mar 25 02:55:00 EDT 2011

On 3/24/2011 8:54 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
> On Mar 24, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Chris Grundemann wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 18:26, Benson Schliesser<bensons at queuefull.net>  wrote:
>>> I'm interested in this term "community" which seems to be so highly valued on PPML.  Does "community" refer to participants in PPML?  Attendees at ARIN meetings?  Address holders?  The larger community of address stakeholders (vendors, operators, users) in the ARIN region?  Or the entire population of the region?
>> All of the above plus some. Participation in ARIN is not limited to
>> members, ISPs, vendors, or even to folks who reside within the region.
>>> My perspective is that a small community at ARIN makes policy that affects the larger population of stakeholders, and frequently conflates the two.
>> All stakeholders are welcome to join these discussions and make
>> policy. Non-participation does not remove you from the community.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consent_of_the_governed

Reread the section of that article on tacit consent, you are missing 

Your assertion that the community members who form the "silent majority"
are opposed to the decisions of the participatory minority is nothing
more than a warmed-over version of Tricky Dicky's 1969 speech 
implications.  But even he knew he was on thin ice as in that speech he 
did NOT assert, as you did with your "conflate" comment, that the silent
majority was opposed to the vocal minority.  Instead he begged for the
silent majority to come forward and support him in opposition to the
vocal minority.

And as I recall, very few did.

Unless we see evidence otherwise, in my opinion it is a much more
supportable assertion to claim that the non-participants are in
general perfectly contented with what the small community making policy
at ARIN is doing.


> Cheers,
> -Benson
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